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"LLANDEBIE (LLAN-DYBIEU), a parish in the union of LLANDILO-VAWR, hundred of ISCENNEN, county of CARMARTHEN, SOUTH WALES, 5 miles (S.) from Llandilo-Vawr, containing 2534 inhabitants. This parish, which derives its name from the dedication of its church to St. Tibieu, is pleasantly situated on the river Loughor, and on the great road from Llandilo to Swansea . . . The lands, of which the soil is wet and clayey, but yet fertile, are in general in a good state of cultivation, a small portion only being waste, and this consisting chiefly of the mountain of Mynydd-Mawr which is within the parish. . . The mountainous district abounds with coal and limestone, which are obtained in great quantities for the supply of the neighbouring districts, and the procuring of which affords employment to a large portion of the poorer inhabitants. A small woollen manufactory employs about a dozen hands; and there are five mills for grinding corn. . . The church is a neat plain structure, with a lofty square embattled tower, and contains about 500 sittings, of which 80 are free. There are two places of worship for Independents, two for Welsh Calvinistic Methodists, and one each for Baptists and Wesleyans; also thre day schools, in which 80 children are taught at the expense of their parents . . ." [From A Topographical Dictionary of Wales (S. Lewis, 1844).]

Archives and Libraries

Beckley, S. Focus on Ammanford and the Amman Valley. J. of the Dyfed FHS, vol. 2, no. 3, (1986) pp.70-73. [Listing of Documentary Sources at Carmarthenshire R.O.]


Griffiths, Pennar. Cofiant Watcyn Wyn. Cardiff, 1915

Thomas, Averil. Canon Griffith Jones (1845-1907). Dyfed FHS journal Vol7/6 Dec 2001. Griffith Jones was born in Cross Inn, the son of a labourer, became a Canon of St Asaph Cathedral.

Wynne Davies, J E (ed). Gwanwyn Duw (The Spring of God). Gwasg Pantycelyn, Caernarfon; 1982. A tribute to the Rev. Gomer Morgan Roberts, details of his life and works with a collection of essays in his honour published by his colleagues in the Historical Society, contains a full bibliography of his writings. The essays are titled;

  • John Penry A'i Genedl (Glanmor Williams)
  • Williams Hyd At Thirlwall (R Buick Knox)
  • Howel Harris: Ymgeisydd Am Ordeiniad (Griffith T Roberts)
  • Rhyfel A Gorfoledd Yng Ngwaith William Williams, Pantycelyn (Derec Llwyd Morgan)

Business and Commerce Records

Details of extant records on Archives Network Wales for the following;

  • T. M. Williams, Ironmonger, Llandybie, Records  1934-1973    "


You can also perform a more selective search for churches in the Llandybie area that are recorded in the GENUKI church database. This will also help identify other churches in nearby townships and/or parishes. You also have the option to see the location of the churches marked on a map.

Church History

Some church and chapel data from The Religious census of 1851 : A Calendar of the returns relating to Wales, Vol 1, South Wales. Ed. by   I.G Jones, & D. Williams. UWP,   Cardiff, 1976. The names are those of the informants

  • Llandebie Parish Church              Lewis Morgan, Vicar
  • Ebenezer, Cross Inn     Baptist       Erected in 1850/1      John Thomas, Secretary, Railway Station, Cross Inn
  • Cross Inn   Ind        Erected before 1800      Morgan Morgans, Deacon, Parkhenry, Llandebie
  • Soar, Llandefain    Baptist         Erected in 1808, rebuilt in 1849    Thomas Thomas, Secretary, Pistill, Nr Llandebie
  • Waenllan    Welsh WM       Erected before 1810      Rees Morris, Secretary, Cilcoll, Nr Llandebie
  • Llandebie Chapel      CM      Erected in 1829     George Griffiths, Secretary, Draper & Grocer, Llandebie
  • Hendre   CM    Erected in 1812    John Morris, Secretary, Dderwn, Llandebie
  • There is a return for an Independent chapel missing here
  • Penygroes   Ind    Erected in 1825      John Evans, Deacon, Near Llandebie
  • Saron, Blinog Hamlet   Baptist      Erected in 1814      Benjamin Thomas, Officiating Minister, Tyrplasgwyn, Llandebie
  • See also under Bettws parish

See the Cwmgors/Waun site for a history database of Amman Valley chapels and churches

Cwmamman Auxiliary of the British & Foreign Bible Society. Subscribers' List from the 1931-1932 report, compiled by Rina Callingham

Llandybie Church - on the Ammanford site

Parish entry for Llandebie from The Welsh Church Year Book, 1929 (Cd by (Archive CD Books)).

  • St Tybie
  • &
  • St David's, Saron
  • &
  • Penygroes Mission Church
  • Incumbent and Curates; G Jones
  • Rural Deanery of  Llandilo
  • Acreage 10,798; Population 6,530

Parish entry for Cwmamman from The Welsh Church Year Book, 1929 (Cd by (Archive CD Books)).

  • Christ Church
  • &
  • Llanfair
  • &
  • St Margaret
  • &
  • St David
  • Incumbent and Curates; W A Jones (B Davies, A O J Thomas)
  • Rural Deanery of  Llandilo
  • Acreage --- ; Population 11,810

Parish entry for Bettws with Ammanford from The Welsh Church Year Book, 1929 (Cd by (Archive CD Books)).

  • St David
  • &
  • St Michael's, Ammanford
  • &
  • All Saints
  • Incumbent and Curates; R H Roberts (W C Lewis)
  • Rural Deanery of  Llandilo
  • Acreage  6,511 ; Population 7,964

Davies, W M. Hanes Cychwyniad a chynydd y Trefnyddion Calfinaidd yn Nosbarth yr Hendre [A History of the Rise and Progress of the Calvinistic Methodists in the Hendre District]. Llanelli, 1908.

James, John. 150 mlynedd y Christian Temple (Gellimanwydd), Rhydaman: cyfarfodydd dathlu'r iwbili. (Merthyr Tydfil, 1932), [16]p.

Lewis, T.H. Sion, Llandybïe: braslun o'i hanes, 1895-1945, (Porth, 1945), 24p.

Richards, John. Hanes eglwys y Christian Temple, Ammanford: papyr a ddarllenwyd yn nghyfarfodydd jubili yr eglwys uchod, dydd Llun, Mehefin 15fed 1903, (Ammanford, 1903), 8p.

Rhys, W.J. Braslun o hanes Carmel, ger Llandybie: erbyn dathlu canmlwyddiant y corfforiad, Mai 1960 [A Brief History of Carmel, near Llandybie]. Llandysul, Gwasg Gomer (1960) 91 p., [6]p. of pl., ill., ports.

Thomas, Eirina. Llandybie Church. Amrywiaeth Llanelli Miscellany (1990), p. 15-18

Thomas, Rachel. Christian Temple: eglwys Annibynnol Gellimanwydd, Rhydaman, 1782-1982, (Abertawe, 1982), 72p.

Church Records

Dyfed FHS have photographs and data relating to various churches and chapels on their site

Parish registers: Christenings (1695-1765, 1778-1919), Marriages (1695-1925), Banns (1823-63, 1866-1962) and Burials (1695-1765, 1778-1948) are at the Carmarthenshire Record Office.

Copy ts PR index CB (1813-75) M (1695-1875) at NLW and Carm.RO

Bishops' Transcripts, covering the period (1672, 1677-8, 1681-2, 1711, 1713, 1717-22, 1724-5, 1730-3, 1735-7, 1739-57, 1761, 1763, 1767-73, 1776-84, 1787-99, 1802-70) are at the National Library of Wales, and have been microfilmed by the LDS.

Marriage index for this parish - see Dyfed Marriages, 1813-1837, Vol. 18 - Iscennin Hundred (Dyfed Family History Society, c1989)

See Bap/Mar/Bur data on FreeReg

Nonconformist Chapels:   (See also the Cwmgors/Waun site for a database of Amman Valley chapels and churches)

  • Calfaria (Baptist, 1896), Penygroes                  On Dyfed FHS  
  • Ebenezer, Lloyd St, Ammanford (Baptist, 1848)             On Dyfed FHS  
  • Salem (Baptist, 1905) Campbell Rd, Llandybie              See Capeli (2006 list of chapels under threat)               On Dyfed FHS
  • Saron (Baptist, c1810), Saron                      New & Old Saron Baptist chapels on Dyfed FHS  
  • Soar (Baptist, 1750) Cefnblewyn, Llandyfan                SN63541804    Formed in 1788, chapel built 1808 and rebuilt in 1849. Status (1998): in chapel use.        Coflein       The History of Llandybie by Gomer Roberts mentions a church book dating back to at least 1834
    Soar Baptist Chapel, Llandyfan ;- a Richard Hicks was a trustee (with others) in a  99 year  lease from Lord Robert Seymour in 1808/9
  • Piscah Baptist, Penybanc, Ammanford         On Dyfed FHS  
  • English Baptist Church (Ysgol y Gwynfryn), Brynmawr Ave, Ammanford        SN6285312644       Founded in 1880 as a preparatory school (Hope Academy) for Theological and other colleges ; new building 1910;       Status (1998): in chapel use.      Coflein    
  • Zion (Seion) Welsh Baptist chapel, Llandybie Rd, Ammanford   SN6258513046     Branch of Ebenezer Welsh Baptist Church, Ammanford and known locally as the iron chapel, or as "Zion zinc"      Status (1997): demolished.     Coflein    
  • Bethany (Calvinistic Methodist, 1881).           On Dyfed FHS                      Bethani Rhydaman CM chapel - still open in 2006
  • Elim CM chapel, Llandybie Rd, Tir-y-dail            SN6260812925   Built 1906, still open in 2000   Coflein                            On Dyfed FHS  
  • Capel Hendre (Calvinistic Methodist, 1775?): births and baptisms (1812-37) PRO RG4/3892, LDS 828113, IGI            SN59411121  Built 1812; rebuilt/modified 1841/2, 1879 & 1900.Status (2000): in chapel use.   Coflein             On Dyfed FHS                   Hendre CM chapel, Heol yr Hendre, Capel Hendre - still open in 2006
  • Gosen (Calvinistic Methodist, 1739), Llandybie village       Baptisms (1861-80) NLW CMA 8916; baptisms (1906-57) NLW CMA II E115/1.         On Dyfed FHS            Gosen Llandybie CM chapel - still open 2006                See Bap/Mar/Bur data on FreeReg
  • Jerusalem (Calvinistic Methodist, 1879), Penygroes                         On Dyfed FHS                         Jerusalem CM chapel, Heol Norton, Penygroes - still open in 2006
  • Gibea CM chapel, Cwmgwili, Llandybie parish         Built 1899.         Status (2000): in chapel use.  Coflein             See John Ball's site Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection for a photograph/data                On Dyfed FHS  
  • English Congregational Church, Iscennen Rd/Talbot Rd, Ammanford      SN6276312445    Built 1913    Status (1997): in chapel use.    Coflein                    On Dyfed FHS  
  • Gwynfryn Ind chapel, College St, Ammanford        On Dyfed FHS                Shown as still open on the Union of Welsh Independents site (Dec 2006)
  • Gellimanwydd (Christian Temple) Ind chapel, Ammanford  (1775)      Called Cross Inn Independent chapel in Rawlins         On Dyfed FHS                    Shown as still open on the Union of Welsh Independents site (Dec 2006)
    Rees, Thomas & John Thomas.   Hanes Eglwysi Annibynnol Cymru (History of the Welsh Independent Churches) 4 volumes (published 1871+). Here is the entry from this book for this chapel (in Welsh ) - with translation by Gareth Hicks (Nov 2008)
  • Penygroes (Independent, 1823)  Heol-y-Gat, Penygroes              On Dyfed FHS       Capel Sgwar Ind chapel, Pen-y-groes (no parish) [same place?] - Shown as still open on the Union of Welsh Independents site (Dec 2006)
    Rees, Thomas & John Thomas.   Hanes Eglwysi Annibynnol Cymru (History of the Welsh Independent Churches),4 volumes (published 1871+). Here is the entry from this book for this chapel (in Welsh ) - translated by Eleri Rowlands (Oct 2008)
  • Peny-groes, Mynydd Seion Ind chapel (no parish)  - Shown as still open on the Union of Welsh Independents site (Dec 2006)            On Dyfed FHS
  • Seion Ind chapel, Llandybie  -  Shown as still open on the Union of Welsh Independents site (Dec 2006)          On Dyfed FHS
  • Nebo Welsh Ind Sunday School, Cathelas, nr Ammanford               SN64551409   Built 1901   Status (1997): in Sunday School use         Coflein
  • Tir-y-Dail, College St (Wesleyan Methodist, 1881): records with those of Waenllan        SN6265112845   Began pre 1881    Built 1892 & rebuilt 1905. Status (1998): demolished.      Coflein
  • Wesleyan Methodist, Harold St/Station Rd/Dyfryn Rd, Tir-y-dail              SN6256012772                   Coflein
  • English Wesleyan Methodist, Wind St, Ammanford            SN6288112202    Built 1875          Status (1997): not in chapel use    Coflein
  • Waenllan (Wesleyan Methodist, 1806): see Wesleyan Chapel (Llandeilo Fawr), Llandybie village      SN61791542     Built 1809, rebuilt/modified 1841 & renovated 1851; rebuilt 1884   Status (1997): other Coflein
  • Evangelical Church, Ammanford                 On Dyfed FHS
  • Evangelical Church, Penygroes                   On Dyfed FHS  
  • Gospel Hall English Pentecostal Chapel, Lloyd St, Ammanford     SN6311412074     Built c 1920    Status (1998): in chapel use.           Coflein
  • Apostolic Church, Iscennen Rd/Talbot Rd, Ammanford             SN6273612438         Built c1910-15 Status in 2000: Chapel        Coflein             On Dyfed FHS
  • Ebenezer (Apostolic) chapel, Ammanford Rd/Rawlings Rd, Llandybie        SN61931522        Built in 1922       Status (2002): Chapel.     Coflein                   On Dyfed FHS  

Ammanford/Rhydaman, St Michael [formed out of Llandybie and Betws 1903]
 Marriages (1893-1971) Banns (1892-1964) Burials (1885-1956) are at the Carmarthenshire Record Office.

Ammanford/Rhydaman, All Saints
Christenings (1915-40) Marriages (1915-23, 1935-43, 1953-71) Banns (1915-73) are at the Carmarthenshire Record Office.

Cwmaman [formed out of Betws, Llandybie, Llandeilo fawr and Llangiwg in 1843]
Christenings (1840-1930) Marriages (1842-1948) Banns (1842-67, 1887-1949) Burials (1842-1959) at Carm. RO
BTs ; 1840-52, 1854-67, 1869-74  NLW

New Saron Chapel photograph and Old Saron Chapel photograph from Dyfed FHS.

Description and Travel

You can see pictures of Llandybie which are provided by:

The Religious census of 1851 : A Calendar of the returns relating to Wales, Vol 1, South Wales., byJones, I.G. & Williams, D.   UWP,   Cardiff, 1976.  These statistics for this parish are extracted from this book which in turn got them from the 1851 census itself;

  • Area 10710 acres; Population 1406 males, 1479 females, total 2885

Llandybie Lime Kilns - on David Kitching's site

Places, villages, farms etc within Llandybie  as shown on the online parish map from the CD of  Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata [computer file]. (Kain, R.J.P., Oliver, R.R.). (Extracted by Gareth Hicks)

  • Llandybie (27); Afon Cennen; Afon Lash; Afon Marlais; Ammanford Urban; Blaenau;  Bryn-beddau; Bryn Marlais; Bryn-hyfryd; Cae'r-bryn; Capel-hendre (village); Castell-y-graig; Cathilas; Cilcoll;  Cwm-Gwili; Cwm Llwchwr; Derwydd; Dyffryn; Garn-bica; Glyn-coch; Glyn-hir; Glyn-hir-uchaf; Glyn-y-meirch; Glyn-yr-henllan; Llandybie (village); Meadows Br.; Morfa; Myddyn-fych; Nant-y-creigle; Pant-y-bryn; Pant-y-ffynnon (village); Pant-yr-odyn; Pen-deri-croes; Pentre Gwenlais; Pen y banc; Pen-y-groes; Piodau-fawr; Pistyll;  Pont Amman; River Loughor; Saron (village); Thornhill; Tir-y-dail; Ty-isaf


Kelly's Directory of South Wales, 1910. Here are Extracts relating to Ammanford

Kelly's Directory of South Wales, 1923. Here are Extracts relating to Ammanford

Emigration and Immigration

Jones, Bill & Dr Huw Walters. On the American Frontiers: Amman Valley Emigrants in Texas, 1879-1880. The Carmarthenshire Antiquary, 37/2001. This article describes the background of the emigration to Texas of Hopkin Hopkin and his family from Gwauncaegurwen, a journey that started at Brynaman Station. Hopkin had links to Carmel, GCG; Bethesda, Cwmamman; and the famous Swansea Valley based choral society of Ivander Griffiths. They went to New Philadelphia under the scheme known as the Texas Freehold Farm and Emigration Company Ltd., one of whose key promoters was Mabon. They were in the first group from South Wales, the other family being that of George and Catherine Davies from Ton Pentre, Rhondda.There are quotations from letters from Hopkin home to GCG, published in Tarian y Gweithiwr; people they met in Texas included; in Dallas, Elias Thomas of Neath; in McAlaster(now in Oklahoma), John Williams of Glynbeudy, Brynaman; and in New Cambria (near Jacksboro), Morgan and Mary Hughes who had links to Ty'nywern Farm, Glanaman.
Includes biographical notes on Hopkin Hopkin by Rina Callingham



Carmarthenshire Families

Held at Carmarthen Archives;

  • Wills and material relating to the Davies family of Ammanford, inc. the deeds of Glynreithin,C19-C20.

Historical Geography

You can see the administrative areas in which Llandybie has been placed at times in the past. Select one to see a link to a map of that particular area.


See Not everyone knows this.. for random snippets about this parish

Ammanford - Terry Norman's site . A treasure trove of local history articles, for example ;- THE DYNEVORS - FROM DYNASTY TO DINOSAUR A brief history of a Carmarthenshire dynasty and the building of Ammanford

THE ARCHAEOLOGY AND EARLY HISTORY OF AMMANFORD "...a brief summary of the archaeology of Llandybie, the Amman Valley, and Betws taken from the Amman Valley Heritage Audit prepared by Cambria Archeology in January 2003 (Report No: 2003/5), by Paul Sambrook and Jenny Hall).  The study area encompasses the modern parishes of Llandybie, Llanfiangel Aberbythych (Carmel), Cyngor Bro Dyffryn Cennen, Cwmamman, Llandadog and Quarter Bach (Brynamman) to the north of Ammanford and Llanedi, Betws and Gwaun Cae Gurwen to the south.." - on Terry Norman's site

Edwards, Hywel Teifi [ed.]   Cwm Aman [Amman Valley] .Gomer 1996. In Welsh.  There is a list of chapter headings and photographs on Cwmgors & Gwauncaegurwen

Evans DA & Walters H. Dyffryn Aman 'Slawer Dydd [The Amman Valley Long Ago: A Collection of Photographs];Gomer 1987. Bilingual. Here is the book's introduction and an Index by Gareth Hicks

Lewis, Brian The Amman Valley: A Photographic Portrait. (1996). Here is an Index by Gareth Hicks

Llandybie: 1940-1990, Llandybie, Llandybie Village Community Project (1990) 96 p., ill. (some col), ports.

Lloyd, Sir John E., (Ed.). A History of Carmarthenshire (2 vols.), Cardiff, London Carmarthenshire Society (1935, 1939). Extracts from this book can be accessed on some parish pages, see here for this parish.

Locksmith, W T H.  Ammanford: Origin of Street Names and Notable Historical Records. Cultural Services Department, County Hall, Carmarthen, 2000 ?.

Roberts, Gomer M. Hanes plwyf Llandybie. Caerdydd: Gwasg Prifysgol Cymru dros Gyngor yr Eisteddfod Genedlaethol, 1939. 334p: ill, map, folded; 21cm. See also below

Roberts, G.R. The History of the Parish of Llandybie, Ivor Griffiths (1995).Translation of Gomer Roberts' original. (1939). Here is a contents listing and an Index by Gareth Hicks, and here are snippets from the book.

Rowlands, J. Llandebie. In Historical Notes of the Counties of Glamorgan, Carmarthen, & Cardigan, and a list of the Members of Parliament for South Wales, from Henry VIII, to Charles II., Cardiff, Hugh Bird (1866), pp.54-58.

Walters, Huw [Dr]. Canu'r Pwll a'r Pulpud. Cyhoeddiadau Barddas, Swansea; 1987, 397 pp. A study of the Welsh culture of the anthracite coalfield before 1914 - particularly Brynaman, and the Aman Valley areas. There are chapters on folk-lore, growth of industry and population, nonconformity, the eisteddfod etc. It brought the author  the Welsh Arts Council Prize for the best work of literary criticism in 1988, the Board of Celtic Studies Prize and the Sir Ellis Jones Ellis-Griffith Prize in 1989. Here is a translation of the Preface by Professor Caerwyn William, list of Contents and brief Introduction.

Land and Property

Details of extant records on Archives Network Wales for the following;

  • Stepney of Llanelli additional collection         Includes;  "Rent books relating to property in Llannon, Llandybie, and Llanedi, Carmarthenshire, 1909-1953............."

Documents at the National Library of Wales:

  • Records of the "Glanamman Lodge" of the True Ivorites, Ammanford, 1840-1946.
  • Estate and family records of Lewes of Llysnewydd, parish of Llangeler, and Dyffryn, parish of Llandybie, Carmarthenshire, mainly C16-C20.

Held at Carmarthen Archives;

  • Printed tithe apportionments 1841-1843 for Llandybie, Llanfynydd and Llandeilo fawr parishes.


You can see maps centred on OS grid reference SN618155 (Lat/Lon: 51.820945, -4.006602), Llandybie which are provided by:


Details of extant records on Archives Network Wales for the following;

  • Pwll-y-Lord Colliery, Llandybie, Notes 1980     "Pwll-y-Lord Colliery was located between Blaenau and Saron in the parish of Llandybie.."


Davies, Ifor. History of Coal Mining in the Amman Valley . Bi-lingual. Published by the author, 2001. Here is a list of chapter headings and photographs.

Public Records

Details of extant records on Archives Network Wales for the following;

  • Llandybie Parish Council Records 1837-1971

Social life and Customs

Davies, Howard G. The Centenary History of Amman United Rugby Football Club, 1903 - 2003. (Roll Along, Amman United, Roll Along) 2003. Here is a Contents listing and a listing of photographs by Gareth Hicks

Smith, Beverley. 'James Griffiths: An Appreciation' in James Griffiths and His Times [s.l.: s.n.]. 1977. An illuminating essay on the culture of the Aman Valley area

Walters, Huw. Cynnwrf Canrif : Agweddau Ar Ddiwylliant Gwern.  Cyhoeddiadau Barddas, Abertawe, 2004.  ISBN: 1900437678. Paperback, 372p.
A comprehensive collection of eight interesting and informative essays reflecting various aspects of the rich folk culture of the Aman and other south Wales valleys in the 19th century, written by a thorough researcher. Here is a review of the book by Tegwyn Jones (in Welsh)

[Gareth Hicks: 19 Dec 2012]