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Llangynin

"LLANGINNING (LLAN-GYNIN), a parish in the higher division of the hundred of DERLLYS, union and county of CARMARTHEN, SOUTH WALES, 2 1/2 miles (W.N.W.) from St. Clear's; containing 405 inhabitants. This parish, which derives its name from the dedication of its church to St. Cynin, or from its situation on the river Cynin, by which it is bounded on the eastern side, contains a considerable tract of land, and with the exception of a very small portion, is inclosed and in a good state of cultivation. A fair is held on January 18th. . . The church has no architectural claim to particular description. There is a place of worship for Wesleyan Methodists; and from thirty to forty children are instructed in a day school at the expense of their parents." [From A Topographical Dictionary of Wales (S. Lewis, 1844).]

Biography

Buckley, W. Kemmis. A Carmarthenshire childhood. Carmarthenshire Antiquary 26 (1990), p. 73-80

Church History

Some church and chapel data from The Religious census of 1851 : A Calendar of the returns relating to Wales, Vol 1, South Wales. Ed. by I.G Jones, & D. Williams. UWP, Cardiff, 1976. The names are those of the informants

  • Llanginning Parish Church John Phillip, late clerk
  • Rhydyceisiaid Ind Erected in 1709 William Davies, Minister, Rhydyceisiaid

Parish entry for St Clears with Llanginning from The Welsh Church Year Book, 1929 (Cd by (Archive CD Books).

  • St Mary & St Cynin (Llanginning)
  • Incumbent and Curates; J M James
  • Rural Deanery of St Clears
  • Acreage 2,642 & 3,264 ; Population 931 & 307

See John Ball's site Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection for a photograph/data re St Cynin's Church

    Davies, William and David Griffiths. Pumed jiwbili eglwys Annibynnol Rhydyceisiaid, 1707-1957: stori'r achos, (Abertawe, 1957), 55p.

    Griffiths, G. Milwyn. A Visitation of the Archdeaconry of Carmarthen, 1710 National Library of Wales journal. 1974, Summer Vol XVIII/3. Includes the parish of Llan Gyning

    Maurice, Maurice. Y wir eglwys yn cyrchu att y nod nefol ynghadernid y tragwyddol Dduw lle mewn rhan y gwelir gwendid a gwaith a gobaith y crediniol. A gwir allwedd i'r ystyriol i agoryd Llyfr y Datcuddiad. Att yr hyn y chwanegwyd byr hanes eglwys Rhydyceished yn eu nheulltuad o Henllan, 1708, Argraphwyd yn y flwyddyn 1727, 54p.

    Church Records

    Dyfed FHS have photographs and data relating to various churches and chapels on their site

    Parish registers: Christenings (1736-1975), Marriages (1756-1970) and Burials (1736-1977) are at the Carmarthenshire Record Office.

    Copy ts PR index CB (1813-75) M (1756-1895) at NLW and Carm.RO

    Bishops' Transcripts, covering the period (1679, 1681-4, 1697, 1729, 1731-4, 1736, 1738, 1740-5, 1747-53, 1755-81, 1783-93, 1798-9, 1805-10, 1812-16, 1818-23, 1825-31, 1833, 1835, 1837, 1843, 1854-5) are at the National Library of Wales, and have been microfilmed by the LDS.

    An Index to Christenings (1813-1875), Marriages (1756-1875) and Burials (1813-1875) is available on microfiche from Dyfed FHS.

    Marriage index for this parish - see Dyfed Marriages, 1813-1837, Vol. 14 - Derllys Hundred (Dyfed Family History Society, c1989)

    See Bap/Mar/Bur data on FreeReg

    Nonconformist Chapels:

    • Rhydyceisiaid (Independent, 1707), Rhydyceisiaid Births and baptisms (1820-37) PRO RG4/4022, LDS 815972, IGI; baptisms and members in Glandwr (Llanfyrnach, Pembrokeshire) register, NLW Ms 4759Ei-ii; schedule, Mr. W. Williams, Carmarthenshire R.O. 4565; Cyfeiriadau, "The Popkin Family", Carmarthenshire Antiquary 7 (1971); membership lists, etc. in Clwydenfro Documents NLW Ms 11614E; members (1803-17) in Clwydenfro Documents NLW Ms 11076A; baptisms and burials (1785-1824) in connection with Glandwr PRO RG4/3915, LDS 813551
      On Dyfed FHS Shown as still open on the Union of Welsh Independents site (Dec 2006)
      Rees, Thomas & John Thomas. Hanes Eglwysi Annibynnol Cymru (History of the Welsh Independent Churches), 4 volumes (published 1871+). Here is the entry from this book for this chapel (in Welsh ) - with translation by Gareth Hicks (Dec 2008)

    Description and Travel

    The Religious census of 1851 : A Calendar of the returns relating to Wales, Vol 1, South Wales., byJones, I.G. & Williams, D. UWP, Cardiff, 1976. These statistics for this parish are extracted from this book which in turn got them from the 1851 census itself;

    • Area 3270 acres; Population 209 males, 215 females, total 424

    Places, villages, farms etc within Llangynin as shown on the online parish map from the CD of Historic Parishes of England and Wales: an Electronic Map of Boundaries before 1850 with a Gazetteer and Metadata [computer file]. (Kain, R.J.P., Oliver, R.R.). (Extracted by Lynne Kleingertner)

    • Llangynin (59); Aber-ddwynant, Berth-lwyd, Blaen-gors. Castell-gorfod, Cefn-Meurig, Cethin, Coedllys-isaf, Eithin, Ffynnon-lwyd, Grove Fm., Inn, Llain, Llangynim, Llwyn-bychan, Llwyn-celyn, Llwyn-crwn, Mill, New Ho, Pengwern, Pen-lan, Pen-parc, Plas-cerdin, Sch, Troed-y-rhiw
      You can see pictures of Llangynin which are provided by:

      Historical Geography

      You can see the administrative areas in which Llangynin has been placed at times in the past. Select one to see a link to a map of that particular area.

      Ask for a calculation of the distance from Llangynin to another place.

      History

      Hughes, J. Hela'r cadno, Llandysul, Gomer (1996) 126 p., ill., facsims., maps, ports. [ISBN: 1859023703 (pbk)] [Subject: Murder; Harries, Ronnie]

      Lloyd, Sir John E., (Ed.). A History of Carmarthenshire (2 vols.), Cardiff, London Carmarthenshire Society (1935, 1939). Extracts from this book can be accessed on some parish pages, see below for this parish.

      • Nonconformity & Methodism/ The Henllan Secessions This section covers 5 pages in the book and describes in great detail the rift between Presbyterians and Independents over who should succeed David Lewis in c 1695 as pastor at Henllan........ One upshot was that Lewis Thomas and his friends started a new cause at Rhydyceisiad in the neighbouring parish of Llangynin, later extending to Aberelwyn in the north-west, and other places.....
      • The Age of the Native Princes/ The Early Church,The Rise of the Kingdom of Deheubarth; "At least eight Carmarthenshire churches belonged to the Brychan (of Brycheiniog) group.....his grandson, Cynin, (is commemorated) in Llangynin ..."
      • The Age of the Native Princes/ Carmarthenshire under Henry I; .."No date can be assigned for the foundation of the little priory of St Clear's. It is probable, however, that when the Norman conqueror of this region established his motte and bailey castle at the confluence of the Taf and the Cynin, he named it, from some foreign site, 'castellum de Sancto Claro', he also built a church which usurped the rights of the ancient fane at Llangynin. This church he bestowed upon the renowned Cluniac priory of St Martin des Champs in the outskirts of Paris, a connection maintained for centuries....."
      • Prehistoric and Roman Times/ List of Carmarthenshire Hill Forts/... a list where 'slight traces indicate the possible former existence of a hill fort with earthen ramparts at the following sites' includes.....Pen-y-gaer Fawr, Llangynin
      • Prehistoric and Roman Times/ Native Sites/Topographical Index; includes;- Llangynin (Carmarthen). Hoard (?) of 10 coins (AE) of Constantine I (306-37 AD) (RCAM, 496)

      Land and Property

      Details of extant records on Archives Network Wales for the following;

      • Rodericks, solicitors, collection of Castell Gorfod papers 1815-1931 (accumulated [1985]) "Rodericks, solicitors, of Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, accumulated papers relating to the Castell Gorfod estate, Llangynin, Carmarthenshire. The Bowen family gained the estate following the marriage of George Bowen of Llwyngwair (1722-1810) and Esther Thomas, daughter of William Thomas of Pentowyn...................."

      Maps

      You can see maps centred on OS grid reference SN254181 (Lat/Lon: 51.834108, -4.535552), Llangynin which are provided by:

      Public Records

      Details of extant records on Archives Network Wales for the following;

      • Llangynin Parish Council and Community Council Records 1894-1984